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Author: bala    Time: 2-20-2008 08:56     Subject: Terminator: T.S.C.C General Discussion Thread (Spoilers)



I'm so glad this show has been added this week so i'm giving all of you until friday watch 1 episode and comment on it.

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Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-20-2008 18:19

Friday - your being nice to people.  i'll wait 2 than to start discussing (already catch up on all air episodes )  
there is one glaring mistake they made in episode 1. i'll wait to vent on friday.
Author: casper27    Time: 2-21-2008 08:01     Subject: Reply 1#1 bala's post

Friday eh Bala how nice . I've watched them all already could not wait for this to come to the site. The masses spoke and the admin staff listened
Author: bala    Time: 2-21-2008 08:18     Subject: Reply 3#3 casper27's post

Well since i assume most of you have jobs you wouldn't get a chance to watch them until friday-if you want start discussing go ahead.
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-21-2008 08:57     Subject: Breaking the cardinal rule!!!!!

ok i'll start the discussion off with my major complaint.  The huge mistake!!!!!  what's with the head making it through the time travel orb?!?!?!  Cameron just got done explaining that nothing inorganic can go through time, so what do they do to start off episode 2?? They break that rule by sending a skinless terminator head through time.  I caught this as soon as i saw the man picking up the head and i hope they either explain it very soon with a great explaination or admit to themselves they made a MAJOR mistake and don't do it a again.  The terminator lore is pretty much set in stone and those of us who are fans will pick up on this mistakes.  i understand the show wants to make their mark in the Terminator franchise but hopefully they won't do so by re-writing the lore.
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-21-2008 09:05     Subject: ok so after i finished writing down my rant i found this:

Please be assured that I am VERY familiar with the rules of time travel as explained by Kyle Reese in the first movie. When Cromartie’s head goes through the time bubble, THERE IS FLESH ON IT. If you can’t see it, that’s because a) it’s burning off very quickly and b) certain people don’t like it when we show burning flesh, cyborg or not.

(Historical note: The first person to ask me this head/bubble question was Jared in Props--a year ago while we were shooting the pilot.)


Exerp was taken from the Producer's Blog, Written by Josh Friedman, Creator/Executive Producer

So the producers have done what i asked and thank you very much to them!!now i can pertisapate in the discussion like a normal person. can't wait for the next episode
Author: bala    Time: 2-21-2008 09:05     Subject: Reply 5#5 kwargalla's post

i didn't know this -i assume they have to do it so bad guy can follow them.
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-21-2008 09:10     Subject: Reply 7#7 bala's post

yeh i totally understod why they did it, what was bugging me was the how.
the growing the skin back over the metal skeleton was gross.  he so looked like he was made out of silly-puddy when he emerged from the bathtub.
Author: casper27    Time: 2-21-2008 09:21

Me and my mate had a right discussion/argument about this and I win. He said that they got around it because they went through at the same time????
I though the whole growing skin thing was a bit far fetched but I suppose it did tell him a way to do it quicker. Why did they need keys for the safety deposit boxes as she could have ripped them all open.

Ok without reading future spoilers or seing posters ect who would have guessed that she was a Terminator. I must admit I went in more or less blind on purpose and didn't see it coming. New episode Monday can't wait.
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-21-2008 09:43     Subject: Reply 9#9 casper27's post

i went in blind as well and laughed   when she said the famous line "Come with me if you want to live".  I must admit i finally got suspicious  when she got shot, being a TV show not a movie something clicked in my head at that scene.
Author: bala    Time: 2-21-2008 10:14

Well the thing i liked about that i didn't know how robot got skin so that episode help me understand how robots look human.
Author: casper27    Time: 2-23-2008 08:31

Seems like we have a captive audience, who is up for a quiz???
Author: bala    Time: 2-23-2008 08:52     Subject: Reply 12#12 casper27's post

hey that would be a good idea
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-24-2008 15:30     Subject: Reply 12#12 casper27's post

sounds great. i'm always up for a quiz.  plus it may bring more people into the discussion
Author: shinny    Time: 2-24-2008 15:51

Hey all, joining the discussion. I've watched the first 4 episodes so far and I'm totally loving it!!!

kwargalla, when I saw your post about the head going through I was just about to type that it had skin on it, but then I saw your other one. Very clever how they did it.

The bath scene was great, very ingenious !!
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-24-2008 18:46

i love where their going with "The Stranger" story line.
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-24-2008 19:37     Subject: a piece of trivia regarding character names:

1) The Character "Cameron" is a tribute to James Cameron, who directed the first two Terminator movies.
2) FBI agent Ellison is named after Harlan Ellison, the science fiction author whose work inspired the Terminator movies.
Author: bala    Time: 2-25-2008 09:19     Subject: Reply 17#17 kwargalla's post

interesting
Author: shinny    Time: 2-25-2008 09:32

Watched the last two. So, the Robots can go bad and nobody knows why !! Why did Cameron put the chip in her pocket?!
Author: bala    Time: 2-25-2008 09:38     Subject: Reply 19#19 shinny's post

Well that's a good question i suspect that she not on the right side.
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-25-2008 09:51     Subject: Reply 19#19 shinny's post

i think it had to do with the theme of grief for that episode.  she had no qualms   with killing humans but it seemed that after learning about grief she seemed to have emotions over killing one of her own kind.  also later on i think they'll use the chip, maybe hack into it to learn more about what the machines are up to in 2007 or to find another way to kill them.
Author: bala    Time: 2-25-2008 09:55     Subject: Reply 21#21 kwargalla's post

i hadn't thought about that
Author: casper27    Time: 2-25-2008 10:04     Subject: Reply 21#21 kwargalla's post

Maybe that chip could get into the wrong hands and that is what starts the war!!!!
This series is so full of paradoxes sometimes I have to stop my self over analysing don't want to overheat the grey matter


Author: shinny    Time: 2-25-2008 10:25     Subject: Reply 21#21 kwargalla's post

Yeh, I did think about that. However, remember when she was destroying the other Robot, she said that all traces of it must be destroyed, because it could lead to judgment day advancing. In that case, she went against a direct order from Future John.
Author: shinny    Time: 2-25-2008 10:26     Subject: Reply 23#23 casper27's post

Exactly, because she was instructed by Future John to get rid of all traces. So why go against his direct orders? Plus we saw the Future Robot turning on the resistance fighters. That's why Reese was suspicious of her......I guess we'll find out !
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-25-2008 10:38     Subject: Reply 25#25 shinny's post

i think reese is suspicious of her because all the other terminators (from the movies) were bad and had to be captured then re-programed.  in the 3rd movie the T800 (arney) had killed john in the future and was sent back re-programed by his wife to save them.  
cameron has been very short on answers regarding if the future soldiers would recognize her.  so  i think it has to do with something that happened in the future before she was turned by the resistance.
Author: shinny    Time: 2-25-2008 10:42     Subject: Reply 26#26 kwargalla's post

Yeh, I remember her saying they had no recollection of what they did before they were re-programmed, so it could be to do with that.

I just think there was more to her taking the chip than meets the eye.
Author: bala    Time: 2-25-2008 12:52

i can't wait tonight episode updated tomorrow
Author: shinny    Time: 2-26-2008 05:40

Episode 1x07 THE DEMON HAND

Great episode and Kwargalla, I think you are completely right. She is evolving. Although she didn't really care about the Russians, she was intrigued about Ballet, so that shows she is changing.

The irony of Silberman ending up in the cell at Pescadero was hilarious.

The total confusion on Derek's face as he watches Cameron dance perfectly is brilliant. Everything he knows about the Robots he is now questioning.

By the way. I only realised now that Sarah is Queen Gorgo from 300 !
Author: kwargalla    Time: 2-26-2008 06:41     Subject: Reply 29#29 shinny's post

You though Reece looked confused?  i thought it was more an utter sadness.  because i think your right about her evolving and he see's it too.  he's seen the human race fall to the machines and worries about the connors who seem to trust the "good" terminates and form bonds with them.   she is the most advanced termonator in the way that she doesn't just mimic humans on the outside, she seems to actually have and emotional range.  
i wish he would have said more about him knowing her from the future!!
love the irony with Silberman but have a problem with the contranewity keeping up with the 3rd movie.  but all and all he so deserves it for how he treated her from the previous movies.  love they kept his character and that he's now a "believer".
Author: bala    Time: 2-26-2008 10:06     Subject: Episode 7

Well this was another interesting episode, Connor finding out that his mother gave him up but i'm glad she explained it. Reese didn't look confused he look terrified that she could blend in as human. Still i don't think he will ever trust her.
Author: shinny    Time: 2-26-2008 10:51

I still think it was confusion. Remember, I got 9/10 for the face/eye test on the What SEX is your brain? SURVEY!

This has the makings of a great show. I'm very much hooked now.
Author: bala    Time: 2-26-2008 11:08     Subject: Reply 32#32 shinny's post

it's got a long way to go I'm not hooked yet
Author: casper27    Time: 3-3-2008 10:29

Sorry about the delay in quiz people but im having a  bit of trouble with this new laptop, does not seem to like Realplayer and Firefox anymore. Will get it sorted soon hopefully. I can't believe how much of a bugger it's been and I am usually really good with computers. Hopefully figure it out before the new episodes.
Author: bala    Time: 3-3-2008 10:37     Subject: Reply 34#34 casper27's post

you know if you asked me i would done one for you
Author: bala    Time: 3-4-2008 04:23

it's now lunchtime over here-waiting for almost a hour for the update
Author: bala    Time: 3-4-2008 06:29

IT'S UPDATED
Author: bala    Time: 3-4-2008 07:57     Subject: Episode 8

ok i just finished watch this episode, i'm going start episode 9 after i post this comment so this episode was about traffic control system but virus was blocked which camaron trust connor to the point where they used her chip to destroy the system . At least Sarah found out that that guy killed him. i'm not sure if that guy is really on their side or not but he does hate machines and cameron in particular i wonder what the story behind that?.

on the whole i do trust cameron but i can't wait to see what happend in episode 9.
Author: bala    Time: 3-5-2008 12:14

NO-ONE WANTS TO DISCUSS IT?
Author: bala    Time: 8-22-2008 08:23     Subject: Terminator: T.S.C.C Season 2 General Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

When i heard about this show last year i was very excited but after i found out that there were only going to be 6 episode i was left rather disappointed because i was left quite unhappy about how short season 1 was but i know the writer strike affected the show so I'm not sure how i feel about season 2 but figures crossed it will be better than season 1.

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Author: bala    Time: 8-26-2008 10:46     Subject: here promo


Author: dem479    Time: 8-27-2008 10:55     Subject: Yay!

I'm excited
Author: bala    Time: 8-29-2008 11:46     Subject: Reply 3#3 dem479's post

Well I'm also looking forward to it as well but i don't like the fact that there making cameron into baddie-there shouldn't do that it's too early for her to become a bad guy.
Author: bala    Time: 9-1-2008 08:16     Subject: Here are some more


Author: shinny    Time: 9-1-2008 08:34

I was trying to figure out who the red headed girl is because I knew I recognised her. It's Shirley Manson from Garbage.


Author: bala    Time: 9-1-2008 08:36     Subject: Reply 6#6 shinny's post

never heard of her

i have heard of Garbage.
Author: shinny    Time: 9-1-2008 09:08     Subject: Reply 7#7 bala's post

She's from Scotland
Author: bala    Time: 9-2-2008 10:08     Subject: Reply 8#8 shinny's post

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult ... s-garbage-star.html
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-2-2008 11:10

i am kind of looking forward to it, as i thought the first season was stange to me
Author: bala    Time: 9-2-2008 11:14     Subject: Reply 10#10 spratt89's post

what was so strange about it
Author: bala    Time: 9-5-2008 03:26     Subject: interview


Author: bala    Time: 9-5-2008 06:43

i just added a countdown at the top of this topic
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-5-2008 08:07

cool countdown
Author: bala    Time: 9-5-2008 08:11     Subject: Reply 14#14 spratt89's post

yeah i found others for other show but half of them don't work properly
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-5-2008 08:12

thats a shame
Author: bala    Time: 9-5-2008 08:15     Subject: Reply 16#16 spratt89's post

it down to the coding-some people don't know put right on the site so it doesn't work
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-5-2008 08:26

i am getting ready to watch the second season, from seeing the promos i think i might like it
Author: bala    Time: 9-5-2008 08:36     Subject: Reply 18#18 spratt89's post

only 4 days until it's on the site
Author: kwargalla    Time: 9-5-2008 16:55

ok - so i got bored and thought i'd re-watch season 1 before season 2 starts and i just found out i missed a whole episode!! i have know idea how but i completely missed ep 6.  and it was brilliant - great way to introduce derek and give us a sneak peak at his life in the future.  my main question is what did they do to him in the basement??? so curious about that - hopefully they'll tell in the new season and we'll see more into his past / john's future and see more of kyle.
Author: kwargalla    Time: 9-5-2008 17:08

can't wait the promo's look amazing!! in one though it looks like cameron goes bad..... i wonder if they're gonna flip the switch on her?  also if sara's ex gonna be around more?  i hope so, i like the dynamic he brings making her see a bit more regular with wants & needs for her self not just john's future.
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-5-2008 17:15

i think this season will be much better than the last
Author: bala    Time: 9-5-2008 21:22     Subject: Reply 40#40 kwargalla's post

LOL-a whole episode
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-6-2008 03:16

how did this season end as i dont remember, i remember a car getting blown up
Author: kwargalla    Time: 9-6-2008 03:32

totally am - now that they actually have a show past the 1st season the story lines will evolve.  and it looks like the cast is growing as well.  i just hope they don't add to many people so you get lost in all the storylines.
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-6-2008 03:35

i agree too many people will make it lose its good storylines
Author: kwargalla    Time: 9-6-2008 03:35

derek told john he know's kyle was his father just by looking at him for a b-day present, john & sara figured out the guy derek killed in the alley wasn't the head guy who was selling the turk, that guy set the bomb that exploded the jeep with cameron in it.

that's about it.

Author: spratt89    Time: 9-6-2008 05:41

ok thanks for the reminder
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-9-2008 06:23

that's a good start for the second season, i really liked it
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-9-2008 07:23

I Like it when this was said, made me laugh

Charley Dixon: What are you looking for?
Derek Reese: It's a piece of tech, it's called "The Turk". It's another computer, it's a program.
Charley Dixon: What does it do?
Derek Reese: Right now, it plays a mean game of chess. In a couple of years, it's gonna get really pissed off... blow up the world.
Author: bala    Time: 9-9-2008 07:54     Subject: Reply 25#25 spratt89's post

Ok this good start but one question she over-ride the terminate mission from her program which mean it's still there just over-ridden so does that mean she's playing devil's advocate in sense she knew she had no choice but override otherwise she would be destroyed?.
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-9-2008 08:10

i have no idea, guess we will find out in coming episodes
Author: bala    Time: 9-9-2008 09:18     Subject: Preview of next episode


Author: spratt89    Time: 9-9-2008 09:31

its going to get much better, cant wait
Author: bala    Time: 9-9-2008 09:32     Subject: Reply 29#29 spratt89's post

Well the toilet thing freaked me out at end the episode
Author: shinny    Time: 9-9-2008 10:25     Subject: 2x01 Samson & Delilah

I loved this episode.

We were introduced to Shirley Manson (by the way, that was her singing at the start) She looks very scary. The toilet thing was great Bala, I agree. Freaked me out too !!!

As for Cameron overriding the command. I think that was to show us she "chose" to do it. Remember all during season 1 they showed her evolving.

It looks like it's set up to be a great second season !!
Author: bala    Time: 9-9-2008 10:52     Subject: Reply 31#31 shinny's post

i never look at an uriner the same way again
Author: bala    Time: 9-9-2008 11:30     Subject: pictures

Here are some picture i found promo and next episode photos
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-9-2008 12:00

great pictures
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-9-2008 13:43

like the one in the white dress best out of those pictures
Author: bala    Time: 9-9-2008 22:42     Subject: Reply 35#35 spratt89's post

there are 2 of that pictures
Author: gyki98    Time: 9-11-2008 09:16

the season premiere was realy realy good.
Author: bala    Time: 9-11-2008 09:17     Subject: Reply 37#37 gyki98's post

glad you liked it
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-11-2008 09:20

i loved the ending of it
Author: bala    Time: 9-11-2008 09:21     Subject: Reply 39#39 spratt89's post

i think we all did
Author: bala    Time: 9-16-2008 08:07     Subject: Episode 2

Good episode, John get a girlfriend can't really blame the guy come on replace a termintor model-i saw that coming a mile away
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-17-2008 02:02

just about to watch it now
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-17-2008 02:14

Good Episode so far
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-17-2008 05:55

I liked that episode a lot, so many things going on, who was the guy that came from the future in this episode
Author: bala    Time: 9-17-2008 05:57     Subject: Reply 44#44 spratt89's post

it provided some information but that woman can T-model a very advanced one
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-17-2008 06:04

i know its great
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-17-2008 13:46

i loved that he found a girl at last
Author: bala    Time: 9-17-2008 22:13     Subject: Reply 47#47 spratt89's post

question is will she freak out when she finds out that people want him dead?
Author: bala    Time: 9-23-2008 01:50     Subject: episode 3

i saw that coming a mile away-i knew they would kill her off
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-24-2008 11:52

about to watch it now
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-24-2008 12:12

that liquid terminator gives me the creeps
Author: bala    Time: 9-26-2008 04:05     Subject: Reply 51#51 spratt89's post

not really-i seen many times so it doesn't freak me out when they turn into liquid
Author: bala    Time: 9-26-2008 04:06     Subject: promo next episode


Author: spratt89    Time: 9-26-2008 04:07

Fantastic Promo
Author: bala    Time: 9-26-2008 04:08     Subject: Reply 54#54 spratt89's post

so we find out about her past-about bloody time
Author: spratt89    Time: 9-26-2008 04:30

it took long enough




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