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Author: codebreaker    Time: 7-26-2012 15:06     Subject: Elementary Seasons 1-5 General Discussion Thread (Spoilers)


Elementary Premiered on CBS on September 27, 2012



ELEMENTARY stars Jonny Lee Miller as detective Sherlock Holmes and Lucy Liu as Dr. Joan Watson in a modern-day drama about a crime-solving duo that cracks the NYPD's most impossible cases. Following his fall from grace in London and a stint in rehab, eccentric Sherlock escapes to Manhattan where his wealthy father forces him to live with his worst nightmare - a sober companion, Dr. Watson. A successful surgeon until she lost a patient and her license three years ago, Watson views her current job as another opportunity to help people, as well as paying a penance. However, the restless Sherlock is nothing like her previous clients. He informs her that none of her expertise as an addiction specialist applies to him and he's devised his own post-rehab regimen - resuming his work as a police consultant in New York City. Watson has no choice but to accompany her irascible new charge on his jobs. But Sherlock finds her medical background helpful, and Watson realizes she has a knack for playing investigator. Sherlock's police contact, Capt. Tobias "Toby" Gregson (Aidan Quinn), knows from previous experience working with Scotland Yard that Sherlock is brilliant at closing cases, and welcomes him as part of the team. With the mischievous Sherlock Holmes now running free in New York solving crimes, it's simple deduction that he's going to need someone to keep him grounded, and it's elementary that it's a job for Watson.

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Author: bala    Time: 9-5-2012 08:42     Subject: Pilot

Ok i really wanted to hate this series but for some reason this show reminds me of The Mentalist for some reason the only difference different actors but the UK one is better because better writing and mystery. It wasn't a bad episode but i did find it amusing how he managed to sneak into her apartment to take the batteries out of her alarm clocks. The case was ok it wasn't a complicated case. This has potential but my opinion is that it's quite similar to the mentalist.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 9-17-2012 04:53     Subject: 1x01 Pilot

The husband not knowing about the safe room was bizarre but him being the killer would of been to easy and Sherlock might of been a jerk interviewing the other victim but she was obviously not telling the whole truth, going to the opera to get Joan was amusing and her solving the case was great
Author: bala    Time: 10-19-2012 05:53     Subject: Child Predator

I think it was rather obvious that the teenager was responsible but the fact that he manipulate the kidnapper was rather impressive and getting that deal he almost got away with it but Sherlock figured out how to get him with the details
Author: codebreaker    Time: 10-25-2012 10:58     Subject: 1x02 While You Were Sleeping

The neighbour stealing from his dead neighbours apartment before calling the police was cold and what a great alibi getting the doctor to put her in what looked like a coma
Author: codebreaker    Time: 10-25-2012 11:49     Subject: 1x03 Child Predator

Adam's immunity deal was impressive and killing one on his own was a great way to get him but only one was unfortunate
Author: bala    Time: 11-2-2012 07:32     Subject: Lesser Evils

Well at first i thought it was Watson female doctor friend who was doing angel of death but the janitor was my second suspect as the other doctor would too obvious suspect but him using it hide his mistake was interesting and to think they would got away with it if Holmes wasn't fooling around in hospital morgue
Author: kellemanske    Time: 11-3-2012 04:55     Subject: Reply 19#19 bala's post

I agree, I thought it was the friend as well, but when the janitor and holmes were in the elevator, I started to suspect him as well.
I'm actually really liking this series. It's well constructed.
Author: bala    Time: 11-9-2012 09:34     Subject: Flight Risk

Well look like Watson uncovered some Holmes past unintentionally
Author: codebreaker    Time: 11-15-2012 19:47     Subject: 1x04 The Rat Race

What a way for a secretary to clime the corporate ladder by killing her bosses competitor so when he moved up the ladder so did she but getting himself abducted was interesting
Author: codebreaker    Time: 11-16-2012 02:33     Subject: 1x05 Lesser Evils

What a fluke Holmes was in the morgue when he spotted the suspicious death and the janitor getting his revenge in the lift by pushing the buttons was amusing, Carrie refusing to listen to Watson about the girl could of been fatal but the outcome of both cases was great
Author: codebreaker    Time: 11-16-2012 03:08     Subject: 1x06 Flight Risk

Sherlock's imposter father asking Watson about the sex was amusing but he was right all along about his father not turning up and planting the wrench in the garage was clever but there was no way anyone one the run would leave that amount of money behind and all those deaths just to cover up drug smuggling was sad
Author: codebreaker    Time: 11-16-2012 05:10     Subject: 1x07 One Way to Get Off

As soon as Sherlock received the text I know he was going to leave Watson behind and Watson visiting his old rehab center in order to learn more about him was interesting but I didn't expect him to shred the letters, Crewes waiting 13 years to get his son to do the murders using the same M.O. as the series of murders that took place back then was clever
Author: bala    Time: 11-16-2012 11:39     Subject: Reply 26#26 codebreaker's post

Well yes that was clever but you would think that his father being in prison would give him second thoughts about committing the crimes ?. He saw what it's like in jail since he voluntary.

On a sidenote Watson trying figure out Holmes past is a bit strange consider Watson character is suppose be his best friend but this is the problem cast female Watson
Author: bala    Time: 11-30-2012 08:41     Subject: The Long Fuse

Well ok episode i really hope he become new sponsor for Holmes because he look much better in the role.
Author: bala    Time: 12-7-2012 13:11     Subject: You Do It To Yourself

Well Holmes under the weather still manages to solve the case thanks to Watson herbal tea
Author: codebreaker    Time: 12-9-2012 13:34     Subject: 1x08 The Long Fuse

The explosion that kills two people was interesting as it was designed to go off in 2008 but what a freak accident miss-dialling the pager on the bomb and Heather being the killer after seeing the video made sense
Author: codebreaker    Time: 12-9-2012 14:15     Subject: 1x09 You Do It To Yourself

Sherlock solving the case while ill was interesting as the victim was the one who arranged his murder and framing the others which was impressive
Author: codebreaker    Time: 12-15-2012 22:53     Subject: 1x10 The Leviathan

Who would of thought some of the jury members on the original supposedly uncrackable bank vault robbery would use what they discovered to do it themselves
Author: codebreaker    Time: 1-4-2013 14:34     Subject: 1x11 Dirty Laundry

Sherlock taking Joan call girl spotting at the hotel was interesting and Joan taking her number afterwards was amusing and the daughter finding out both her parents were spy's would come as a shock and being caught by invisible ink was great
Author: codebreaker    Time: 1-11-2013 03:36     Subject: 1x12 M.

Sherlock being reunited with (M.) the British criminal was obvious he followed him to New York and I'm not surprised he had surveillance cameras but hidden in books was clever, Sherlock catching in the act thanks to the kid was great and hanging him up was ironic as that's what he does to his victims but stabbing him after what he said was a surprise, look like Joan is staying at her own expense
Author: bala    Time: 1-11-2013 07:51     Subject: Reply 39#39 codebreaker's post

Well we knew she would stick around

I have to say Vinnie Jones really proves that there is life after football
Author: bala    Time: 2-2-2013 04:32     Subject: The Red Team

Sherlock going find a members of red team were interesting but i hate that we don't know what the plan was . What he said we don't know but it will certainly bug me
Author: codebreaker    Time: 2-2-2013 08:17     Subject: 1x13 The Red Team

How long can Watson stay as Sherlock's companion without getting paid and how he got Harold Dresden to surrender was a mystery
Author: codebreaker    Time: 2-4-2013 11:46     Subject: 1x14 The Deductionist

Watson faces eviction from her apartment because her tenant used it to make porn films was disturbing especially using her kitchen utensils and Sherlock being forced to work alongside Kathryn Drummond was interesting as she was Martin Ennis's target all along
Author: bala    Time: 2-4-2013 11:51     Subject: Reply 46#46 codebreaker's post

Well the fact that it was the sister who killed Kathryn Drummond was a great twist
Author: bala    Time: 2-4-2013 12:30     Subject: Reply 48#48 codebreaker's post

I hate vague promos
Author: bala    Time: 2-8-2013 09:38     Subject: A Giant Gun, Filled with Drugs

With a friend like this who needs enemies but he did save Watson
Author: codebreaker    Time: 2-9-2013 02:45     Subject: 1x15 A Giant Gun, Filled with Drugs

How ironic that the young woman being scared of the courier wanting to charge his phone could of stopped the kidnapping and some friend Rhys was suggesting Sherlock was a better detective when he was using drugs
Author: codebreaker    Time: 2-15-2013 13:40     Subject: 1x16 Details

The way Sherlock tried to encourages Joan to learn self-defense was amusing but I'm not surprised she retaliated and I had a felling Sherlock knew about Joan was not working for his father any more
Author: codebreaker    Time: 2-23-2013 07:22     Subject: 1x17 Possibility Two

I like the way Joan's deductive skills are getting better and sending her to the suspicious dry cleaning establishment was amusing
Author: kellemanske    Time: 2-24-2013 09:00     Subject: Reply 55#55 codebreaker's post

Barging in on the videoconference cause she figured it out was funny
Author: codebreaker    Time: 3-16-2013 07:45     Subject: 1x18 Déjà Vu All Over Again

The murder on the subway platform was disturbing considering he gave her flowers first and the video that mentioned that murder from the woman who apparently left her husband was a strange coincidence but the poor woman in the subway being killed to try and cover up his wife's murder was diabolical
Author: bala    Time: 3-16-2013 07:51     Subject: Reply 58#58 codebreaker's post

This was one craziest murder i seen on TV a lot of planning and he almost got away with it
Author: spratt89    Time: 3-27-2013 12:22

Renewed For A 2nd Season
Author: bala    Time: 4-5-2013 06:27     Subject: Snow Angels

Well solving a crime in snow storm was more of a challenge for Sherlock
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-12-2013 11:30     Subject: 1x19 Snow Angels

I have to admit that was a well planed robbery and an even better escape plan but shooting the guard being their down fall was great as he didn't die for nothing
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-26-2013 03:28     Subject: 1x20 Dead Man's Switch

Joan warning Sherlock of the guys return was great but how did the killer get past Joan unless he was inside first but if that was the case then why didn't he go after Sherlock as well
Author: bala    Time: 4-28-2013 09:57     Subject: Reply 65#65 codebreaker's post

Good episode but Joan was in the car so she wasn't inside and the killer used back door joan was only watching front of the house not the back.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-28-2013 10:38     Subject: Reply 66#66 bala's post

I thought they said their was only one way in
Author: bala    Time: 4-28-2013 10:46     Subject: Reply 67#67 codebreaker's post

Well there was 2 door that i could see Front was where the guy was coming in so Sherlock walked to the back and saw another guy. If there was one door why would he walk towards the door when Watson told him he coming surely he would hide if there was only door ?. There must of been two doors since they (victim and killer) both came from different direction ?.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 5-3-2013 04:46     Subject: 1x21 A Landmark Story

Turning the pacemaker into the murder weapon is a scary thought but it was a hell of a way to control him before the killing, being able to get a photo of the guy behind a moving train was impressive
Author: bala    Time: 5-3-2013 08:13     Subject: Reply 69#69 codebreaker's post

Yes but seriously Holmes should of better than interview the guy in front of a window
Author: bala    Time: 5-10-2013 10:02     Subject: Risk Management

I have say i didn't expect that ending it ain't often Sherlock get surprised but what a hell of a shock last 30 seconds and look on his face was priceless. . I am not ruin the surprise but i suppose he should be happy since he didn't know.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 5-10-2013 13:23     Subject: 1x22 Risk Management

Moriarty having Sherlock jumping through hoops to solve the case was interesting but finding the gate to the big house unlocked and the key in the door was suspicious
Author: codebreaker    Time: 5-17-2013 09:06     Subject: 1x23 The Woman

The series of flashbacks between Sherlock and his former lover, Irene were interesting but her being Moriarty I didn't see coming
Author: bala    Time: 5-17-2013 09:34     Subject: Reply 73#73 codebreaker's post

Yes that nice twist can you imagine of all the people and again a women first they made Watson into a women and now Moriarty but i have say she was great actress
Author: bala    Time: 5-17-2013 09:36     Subject: Heroine

Who would of thought Moriarty weakness would be Watson figure out she was in love with Sherlock and would come to his rescue if he fake relapse
Author: codebreaker    Time: 5-17-2013 09:37     Subject: 1x24 Heroine

The fake overdose to capture her was a nice conclusion
Author: bala    Time: 5-17-2013 09:52     Subject: Reply 76#76 codebreaker's post

I have feeling she will escape
Author: codebreaker    Time: 5-17-2013 10:06     Subject: Reply 77#77 bala's post

That would spoil it as every major villain in every show seem to escape which is getting too predictable
Author: sanggye    Time: 9-27-2013 11:45     Subject: 2x01 Step Nine

Nice return, Sherlock going home, even for 1 episode was cool, and seeing 2 literary characters, Lestrade and Mycroft and the mention of Langdale Pike (who was a columnist in the books) and of course the address of 221 B were the best parts of this episode.  The murder investigation was trivial and really a small part of this episode.

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Author: bala    Time: 9-27-2013 11:48     Subject: Reply 82#82 sanggye's post

Yes it was nice returning episode and Watson learn a few things about Holmes but blow up Holmes stuff was priceless
Author: codebreaker    Time: 9-30-2013 00:23     Subject: Reply 82#82 sanggye's post

Watson not knowing Mycroft was Sherlock's brother was interesting as he must of came up when she searched his history in the early episodes and there was no way Sherlock would only look for Gareth without trying to solve his case but his theory about the gun and how he got rid of it was impressive
Author: sanggye    Time: 10-1-2013 14:25     Subject: Reply 84#84 codebreaker's post

Nice catch with the history, though believe it or not it is possible to research one's history and not find any information about siblings, especially when it is not obvious..  Especially taking in account of not getting along, different schools, the time period (before social networking and public usage of the internet. and her history search might have not covered that.

I found the murder and solving to be blah, especially the deduction, all he saw was one item.  It had been too long since the murder, there was no gun powder residual (even Holmes said that) I can list at least  other 8 reasons, only one of which has to deal with a gun.

But this episode was good, not because of the murder, but for the interactions in it, and also the usage of some classic Holmes' elements with those interactions.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 10-5-2013 13:19     Subject: 2x02 Solve for X

Watson offering the son of a former patient a all paid scholarship after he approached her for a loan was an interesting decision and killing the mathematical genius for his equation was beyond me
Author: kellemanske    Time: 10-5-2013 13:52     Subject: Reply 87#87 codebreaker's post

I think it was a bit unbelievable that the math problem is so complex they reward you with 1000000 dollars and then it turns out that this is the second person in a matter of weeks that solves it.
Author: sanggye    Time: 10-9-2013 04:30     Subject: Reply 88#88 kellemanske's post

There are million dollar awards to solve certain math problems, look up millennium prize problems.  And it wasn't that a second person solved it, it was that using the other's work they were closer to solving it.
Author: kellemanske    Time: 10-9-2013 05:25     Subject: Reply 89#89 sanggye's post

I know about the millenium prizes, I believe that. I just don't think it is possible that the women solved it and then a few weeks later the other two were close to a solution. They hadn't seen her work. That's why I'm mad. If it's such a difficult math problem (which I believe) they shouldn't let 2 parties solve it seperately from eachother.
Author: sanggye    Time: 10-10-2013 06:10     Subject: Reply 90#90 kellemanske's post

It happens all the time in real life, take for example Alexander Graham Bell, who did not invent the telephone, but was the first to patent it in the United States, at the period of time, others were working on the same thing.  This has happened quite a few times in the history of innovation.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 10-12-2013 13:20     Subject: 2x03 We Are Everyone

Joan taking the advice from a friend and signed up for an on-line dating service was interesting as at the same time they both had their lives disrupted when they were targeted by a cyber activists
Author: bala    Time: 10-12-2013 23:01     Subject: Reply 93#93 codebreaker's post

Well it was bad timing but Homles testing Watson using a doll house picture was amusing.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 10-18-2013 12:43     Subject: 2x04 Poison Pen

What an alibi to use that she was busy planing to kill her husband when he was killed but his son beating her too it after being sexually abused made sense and Abigail confessing because she got away with killing before was bizarre
Author: codebreaker    Time: 10-26-2013 09:18     Subject: 2x05 Ancient History

Watson trying to help a close friend track down the mystery man who swept her off her feet was amusing as the guy she was looking for was Holmes but having a second bite at the cherry was priceless
Author: bala    Time: 10-26-2013 10:55     Subject: Reply 98#98 codebreaker's post

Watson getting her own back suggesting Holmes might be a father was amusing
Author: codebreaker    Time: 10-26-2013 10:59     Subject: Reply 99#99 bala's post

Yes that was funny
Author: sanggye    Time: 10-26-2013 19:25     Subject: Reply 100#100 codebreaker's post

Watson is really coming into her own as a consulting detective, good for her.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 11-1-2013 14:08     Subject: 2x06 An Unnatural Arrangement

Captain Gregson's wife was lucky she could set off the car alarm when their home was invaded but the invader getting the wrong house was an interesting twist
Author: codebreaker    Time: 11-8-2013 09:41     Subject: 2x07 The Marchioness

Mycroft returning for Holmes and Watson to help solve a case was interesting as it involved his former fiancée and the fact he is having a difficult time accepting Mycroft and Joan's relationship didn't help
Author: bala    Time: 11-8-2013 10:30     Subject: Reply 105#105 codebreaker's post

Yes but i surprised find out Joan sleep with him
Author: codebreaker    Time: 11-19-2013 05:30     Subject: 2x08 Blood Is Thicker

Ian Gale's daughter, Haley being killed was sad but the fact he only wanted to get to know her because he needed a donor was tragic and what an elaborate plan from the wife to kill them both for the inheritance
Author: bala    Time: 11-23-2013 08:44     Subject: Reply 108#108 codebreaker's post

Yes it was very smart way to killing her husband
Author: bala    Time: 11-23-2013 08:45     Subject: On The Line

Well having killer comes to Holmes house was certainly different but finding out some cops don't like Sherlock didn't comes as no surprise but Joan seemed to take it personally.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 12-1-2013 13:03     Subject: 2x09 On The Line

Committing suicide to frame Lucas was a desperate act to get her sisters killer and Sherlock punching Lucas didn't help their case but at least her committing suicide wasn't in vain
Author: bala    Time: 12-7-2013 10:25     Subject: Tremors

Wow what an episode Sherlock cause him to loose motion in his arm was sad consequence but chief asking him whether they should allow him to consult on future cases was a surprise and he still has a job .
Author: bala    Time: 12-13-2013 08:39     Subject: Internal Audit

Well Joan being put in a difficult when one suspect happens old client of her and she deal with custody of her child but trying not to get her involved was a challenging
Author: codebreaker    Time: 12-16-2013 05:38     Subject: 2x10 Tremors

Sherlock having to testify in an official police inquiry was interesting and the Judge needing a lot of patients was amusing but with Silas being schizophrenic was bound to make things harder
Author: codebreaker    Time: 12-16-2013 06:26     Subject: 2x11 Internal Audit

Shooting the victim in the knees just has he's about to commit suicide was different and Chloe being an acquaintance of Joan was bound to make things awkward

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Author: bala    Time: 1-3-2014 06:59     Subject: The Diabolical Kind

Well nice returning episode Moriarty taking advantage of her flexiablity and actually getting special treatment for her information but love letter between them over the period was interesting   . Finding out it was her daughter was shocker and for a moment we actually thought Sherlock might have been the father but it was not true.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 1-3-2014 08:21     Subject: 2x12 The Diabolocal Kind

Moriarty not killing to escape must be a first and the young girl being her daughter was an interesting twist
Author: codebreaker    Time: 1-10-2014 11:17     Subject: 2x13 All in the Family

So much for him needing an alibi for any time he wants with him dying in a car bomb and Marcus helping to take down the dirty deputy commissioner was great
Author: codebreaker    Time: 1-31-2014 15:27     Subject: 2x14 Dead Clade Walking

Joan discovering an unsolved murder is connected to a rare prehistoric fossil while she revisited one of Sherlock's cold cases was interesting as the rock was still in the yard but I was surprised the artefact was destroyed
Author: codebreaker    Time: 2-7-2014 13:43     Subject: 2x15 Corpse de Ballet

Rigging the body of the ballerina who was murdered to be cut in half as she fell from the rigging was disturbing but Sherlock sleeping with Iris was surprising as she was the lead suspect at the time
Author: bala    Time: 3-1-2014 10:09     Subject: The One Percent Solution

Well bomb really look simple made but Sherlock getting heat image of city to find the bomber was impressive
Author: codebreaker    Time: 3-4-2014 14:15     Subject: 2x16 The One Percent Solution

Joan having an aversion to cocks was amusing as Sherlock was obviously talking about chickens and Sherlock ignoring Lestrade's phone calls was amusing as he was also at his door
Author: codebreaker    Time: 3-17-2014 13:12     Subject: 2x17 Ears to You

The husband receiving a ransom demand for his wife's safe return was interesting as he was suspected of killing her years ago and the killing the kidnapper after the ransom drop was stupid as if she was really held hostage he killed the only person who knew where she was but his wife being behind the whole thing was clever
Author: codebreaker    Time: 3-17-2014 13:42     Subject: 2x18 The Hound of the Cancer Cells

The cancer researcher being found dead was interesting but killing him with helium was amusing at first
Author: bala    Time: 4-6-2014 00:04     Subject: Reply 131#131 codebreaker's post

That was rather confusing but it was great plan to fake her death
Author: bala    Time: 4-6-2014 00:05     Subject: Reply 133#133 codebreaker's post

That really was an interesting way to kill him points for originality
Author: bala    Time: 4-6-2014 00:07     Subject: The Many Mouths of Andrew Colville

Well this was another interesting case having Andrew Colville dental mold in various people mouth meant to find the right one was challenging but it being his mother was a surprise.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-20-2014 04:46     Subject: 2x19 The Many Mouths of Aaron Colville

Dr. Fleming allowing Aaron to die on the operating table back in 2005 did look suspicious and having eight suspects with the same dentures was surprising and the mother going for a law suite being her undoing was karma
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-20-2014 05:22     Subject: 2x20 No Lack of Void

I had a feeling Bart killed his brother so he could blame him for trying to poison the cattle anthrax but just for an insurance claim on the animals was diabolical
Author: bala    Time: 4-20-2014 05:47     Subject: Reply 140#140 codebreaker's post

That was a a crazy risk he took for it
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2014 14:10     Subject: 2x21 The Man With the Twisted Lip

Sherlock using a glass to capture the miniature drone was quick thinking but using another to kill inside the interrogation room was incredible and what a cliffhanger
Author: bala    Time: 5-10-2014 10:36     Subject: Art in the Blood

Well Sherlock getting case from MI5 was interesting but finding out his brother was consultant for them came as a surprise but who would thought case would turn frame job for his brother
Author: codebreaker    Time: 5-17-2014 01:43     Subject: 2x22 Paint It Black

Sherlock having to work with his brother, Mycroft to save Joan's life was interesting as working without her was challenging for Sherlock and after all that help Mycroft turning on Sherlock was disappointing but the end was a surprising twist
Author: codebreaker    Time: 5-17-2014 03:58     Subject: 2x23 Art in the Blood

Mycroft working for British intelligence explained Joan's amazing rescue and finding themselves becoming involved with MI-6 after what happened to Joan was surprising but taking the dead guys arms for the invisible tattoos was interesting
Author: codebreaker    Time: 5-17-2014 04:23     Subject: 2x24 The Grand Experiment

Sherlock warning Mycroft he was being framed was nice as Mycroft rejoined MI-6 to protect Sherlock without him knowing and the mole being in every county at the same time as Mycroft could only be his Handler and the way Joan protected herself was quick thinking
Author: bala    Time: 5-18-2014 01:18     Subject: Reply 150#150 codebreaker's post

Yes Joan really smart being proactive about having witness but Sherlock taking Mycroft MI6 job was a surprise
Author: codebreaker    Time: 9-20-2014 03:54

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