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Author: lbjedward    Time: 4-27-2011 01:45     Subject: Updated on May 16th: VIP.tv-video.net reopened

For celebrating the fourth anniversary of VIPTV.net on May 1st, Viptv.net will abandon RM sreaming and embrance high-quality flash streaming. The upgrade will be started at GMT 2:00 on April 30th and streaming server will be offline for about six hours. Flash streaming brings all members much better audiovisual effect and just requires Adobe Flash Player plugin which has been preloaded on most of computers. And most of current TV shows will be available in Flash except for some Animation shows. Updated: VIPTV.net has upgraded to Flash streaming. A new version VOD system is used. If you find any bugs, please report here and you will be awarded 10 forum points( can be exchanged to VIP points) at least. Updated on May 5th: Pop-up window will be available soon later. Now it's still in test. This function will allow member to adjust the size of pop-up window and and facilitate multiple tasking. Updated on May 9th: Complying with the development trend, we admin use Flash to replace RM to provide better service for our members. Flash is much more used by online stream services and can be played on more and more systems. I apologize that we don't give members enough time before this upgrade. Some members still can not play our Flash streaming smoothly after optimizing their computers due that our Flash file size is roughly three times than its RM counterpart. So we decide to prolong RM running for one year till April 30, 2012. And RM streaming will be available again at http://vip.tv-video.net with EU server only. Members' accounts will be synchronized, i.e. you can get your real-time left points number or expiration date of unlimited service on vip.tv-video.net as well as viptv.net. But viewing history on two sites(viptv.net and vip.tv-video.net) can not be synchronized due to technical issue. That’s to say that view entry will be logged in viptv.net and vip.tv-video.net respectively. And please note that the same episode on two sites will cost your pts twice if you play it on two sites respectively even in 24hrs. Updated on May 14th: Due that new RM updates need more time to catch up, VIP.tv-video.net will be reopened on May 16. Updated on May 16th: Vip.tv-video.net is reopened offering RM streaming.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-27-2011 01:50     Subject: Reply 1#1 lbjedward's post

Thanks for the early notice
Author: bala    Time: 4-27-2011 01:51     Subject: Reply 1#1 lbjedward's post

Thank you for this information
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-27-2011 02:13     Subject: Reply 1#1 lbjedward's post

Just a suggestion to put a link in the Announcements on VIP for those that don't use this forum
Author: bala    Time: 4-27-2011 02:41     Subject: Reply 4#4 codebreaker's post

I am sure he will put that up but it's quite exciting waiting for this to be finally launched.. Normally when site get offline member who don't visit the forum will come on it. i just hope they don't increase points per episode because it's flash. [ Last edited by bala at 4-27-2011 10:48 ]
Author: dognxtdoor    Time: 4-27-2011 02:47     Subject: Reply 5#5 bala's post

You hope they increase points??? There will be no change to the cost per episode.....so no it won't.
Author: bala    Time: 4-27-2011 02:49     Subject: Reply 6#6 dognxtdoor's post

Sorry i meant don't increase
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-27-2011 02:53     Subject: Reply 5#5 bala's post

I suppose with tvfull they have those already in flash but changing the rest is still a big job and will they covert what they have or find a new source which should fix all the faulty episodes and why would you hope they increase points per episode, tvfull started at 7 points but a small increase should be expected
Author: bala    Time: 4-27-2011 02:58     Subject: Reply 8#8 codebreaker's post

Yeah i don't mind if any animation is missing it's the new show that recently added like Criminal Minds Suspect Behaviour and Hawaii Five-0 as long they are on the site i will be happy along with regular shows. I made a typo i meant i hope they don't -missed the word don't which is why i edited the comment above.. sometimes i type way too fast .
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-27-2011 03:02     Subject: Reply 9#9 bala's post

Yes i realised that after i posted it because I'm so slow at typing
Author: bala    Time: 4-27-2011 03:06     Subject: Reply 10#10 codebreaker's post

When you type a comment, are you watch another show at same time or do you post after you finish ?. I notice when i am not watching anything my comments are a lot more accurate and make more sense compared when i am watching & typing.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-27-2011 03:13     Subject: Reply 11#11 bala's post

I usually pause unless it's a comedy which is what they say is more important
Author: shinny    Time: 4-27-2011 05:22

I usually comment when I'm watching shows, reading comments, mowing the lawn, plotting world dominiation.........well you know that women are great at multitasking right???
Author: shinny    Time: 4-27-2011 05:23

On a serious note. I'll often split the screen and watch my show and do some other things too.
Author: bala    Time: 4-28-2011 03:48

Quote:
Originally posted by codebreaker at 4-27-2011 10:13 Just a suggestion to put a link in the Announcements on VIP for those that don't use this forum
He has just done that Attention: Server will be offline for upgrading to Flash
Author: rickman    Time: 4-28-2011 06:13

thanks for the upgrade lbj!!!
Author: thelimpingtoad    Time: 4-28-2011 07:37     Subject: What about media controls?

Will the flash video player you're going to be using allow keyboard media controls like pause/play etc? Will it still allow full screen playback?
Author: spratt89    Time: 4-28-2011 07:54     Subject: Reply 17#17 thelimpingtoad's post

Yes to both
Author: jake1210    Time: 4-28-2011 08:09

do we know how long the server will be down for?
Author: bala    Time: 4-28-2011 08:19     Subject: Reply 19#19 jake1210's post

It say 6-8 hours in comment 1
Author: sanggye    Time: 4-28-2011 11:12     Subject: Reply 20#20 bala's post

Thanks for the warning and letting us know.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-28-2011 11:23

Quote:
Originally posted by thelimpingtoad at 28-4-2011 15:37 Will the flash video player you're going to be using allow keyboard media controls like pause/play etc? Will it still allow full screen playback?
The sister site uses flash and has full screen playback but keyboard media controls don't work on that site so i predict it wont work here after update
Author: bala    Time: 4-28-2011 11:29     Subject: Reply 22#22 codebreaker's post

I wonder what happens tvfull after viptv site get upgraded? Will it still be avaliable?
Author: spratt89    Time: 4-28-2011 11:30     Subject: Reply 22#22 codebreaker's post

the space bar button pauses and plays after you click the play button once.
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-28-2011 11:33     Subject: Reply 23#23 bala's post

Both running on the same format and tvfull slightly more expensive does seem pointless unless they do a mobile app for one of them [ Last edited by codebreaker at 4-28-2011 20:00 ]
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-28-2011 11:37     Subject: Reply 24#24 spratt89's post

Well spotted, having a media center PC i do use the keyboard to pause realplayer and windows media player
Author: jessiswise    Time: 4-28-2011 16:23

You said April 30th, but there is a message on the site now that say's its being upgraded or did that mean for the 30th (as there was no date with the message on the front main page, it implies that it's happening right now, which is before the 30th so I am a little confused) Because right now, the episodes aren't loading correctly for me though they were this morning and nothing has changed except the note on the main page. [ Last edited by jessiswise at 4-29-2011 00:25 ]
Author: bala    Time: 4-28-2011 22:11     Subject: Reply 27#27 jessiswise's post

Well that message on the viptv site has been there since yesterday it's a advance warning for user who don't visit the fourm that there is planned upgrade tomorrow.
Author: banlron    Time: 4-29-2011 04:27

so no more real player??
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-29-2011 04:34     Subject: Reply 29#29 banlron's post

It looks that way but i think it has been more troublesome for the MAC users
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 4-29-2011 04:40     Subject: Reply 29#29 banlron's post

No more RealPlayer. The new set up should be easier & less troublesome for everyone.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 4-29-2011 04:42     Subject: Reply 27#27 jessiswise's post

The notice on VIPTV is a link to this thread which provides the time for the site being down, which is the 30th.
Author: jessiswise    Time: 4-29-2011 09:15

I know you said its going to be down on the 30th, but is there a reason it hasn't been working on the 28th and 29th either? Not since that advance warning notice went up?
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 4-29-2011 09:28     Subject: Reply 33#33 jessiswise's post

It's been working for me, and I haven't seen others saying it's down for them, so it might be a issue on your end. I just checked & have a show playing right now, so I'm not sure what to tell you.
Author: arksongbird80    Time: 4-29-2011 10:17

Super glad things are being upgraded! If it will no longer be necessary to use Realplayer, what will I use??
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-29-2011 10:27     Subject: Reply 35#35 arksongbird80's post

Realplayer is still used for the movie site but like tvfull flash is a plug in on most computers and web browsers
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 4-29-2011 10:35     Subject: Reply 35#35 arksongbird80's post

The movie site will eventually be switched to flash as well.
Author: rickman    Time: 4-29-2011 13:37

switching to flash is a big comfort to pc users but i doubt about mac... any idea for mac users?
Author: arksongbird80    Time: 4-29-2011 14:02     Subject: Reply 36#36 codebreaker's post

the movie site?
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 4-29-2011 14:52     Subject: Reply 39#39 arksongbird80's post

Not actually affiliated with this site, but the admin is a friend of LBJ. Here's the link: movieonline.cc
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 00:52

It took a little longer than expected but it's back on line and i think i will try the free videos fist before getting back to the regular shows
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 01:02     Subject: Reply 41#41 codebreaker's post

Please report back your findings
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 01:03     Subject: Missing shows

I'm assuming the missing shows will come back later
Author: spratt89    Time: 4-30-2011 01:08

the only thing that needs changing is where it says Software: it has to be changed to Flash
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 01:10

It's looking good and the full screen works great but the flowplayer logo is distracting Replied by lbjedward: Thank you! This is a bug Please use viptv.net righ now, and we will fix it soon later.
Author: salted21    Time: 4-30-2011 01:21     Subject: Greetings from a Man in the Army

Is there anyway you can keep both a realplayer link and switch to the flash player link? I liked realplayer as it enabled me while I was deployed to catch up on the tv shows back in the states. I would like it if you were to keep using realplayer in addition to flash.
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 01:23     Subject: Reply 46#46 salted21's post

No it has been dumped no going back
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 01:36     Subject: Reply 42#42 bala's post

Your the expert, so how many shows have we lost I've only spotted two and the one we have seen but i will be disappointing if City Homicide don't come back
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 01:42     Subject: Reply 48#48 codebreaker's post

It hard to spot as most of the shows are on there it will take time to spot
Author: tjuhej88    Time: 4-30-2011 01:45     Subject: Flash upgrade

Just tried out the Flash Upgrade on one of the free shows. Great improvement, I like it In Real Player the video sometimes jumped so I missed some of the dialogue. This runs much smoother. Much appreciate your work Love this site. Just one wish: will Game Of Thrones be available on this site? Please ...
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 01:46     Subject: Reply 49#49 bala's post

I will also miss the pop up screen which made multi tasking easier
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 01:46

Quote:
Originally posted by codebreaker at 4-30-2011 09:10 the flowplayer logo is distracting
That is the only downside .
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 01:52     Subject: Reply 51#51 codebreaker's post

Yeah the additional tab it launch every time you click an episode is something i can get used to it's doesn't prevent multi-tasking you just need work around it. Now the episodes are eating up a lot of internet usage .
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 01:55     Subject: Reply 53#53 bala's post

Yes being double the file size might be a problem if you are on a limited package
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 01:59     Subject: Reply 50#50 tjuhej88's post

You should make your suggestion here but follow the notes in post #1
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 02:04     Subject: Reply 55#55 codebreaker's post

Have you look at website for the player http://flowplayer.org/index.html UPDATE: JUST FOUND OUT Flowplayer is released in two versions:
  • Open source (free) version (released under the GPL license). Inthis version, the Flowplayer branding (logo) is always visible on theplayer, you can’t remove the logo.
  • Commercial version. In this version you can remove the Flowplayer logo and place your own logo on the video.
[ Last edited by bala at 4-30-2011 10:23 ]
Author: casper27    Time: 4-30-2011 02:30

Well Vip Flash is running great. I have noticed the picture quality seems even better. I usually have my computer hooked up to my 42" tv so the quality of the videos really shows.
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 02:32     Subject: Reply 57#57 casper27's post

It's great but logo on left bottom screen is distracting
Author: frogfox    Time: 4-30-2011 02:34     Subject: Consultation and errors

So, did I miss the bit where the administrators asked the users what they wanted or was this just imposed? As a long time user and high volume point buyer I find that quite annoying. The first I knew that this was being done was not being able to get into the site during the upgrade this morning. Perhaps those who spend a lot of time on the forum were told but from this thread it appears the announcement was given only a few days ago. I am a MAC user. I've tried the flash and it runs OK on the very fast internet link I am currently on. However, so did Real player and with some advantages - I agree with some of the issues I have seen listed in this thread and I have one to add : 1. Multi tasking really does not work any where near as well as it is not possible to have a smaller screen playing only the video (unless I haven't found it in which case, please tell me how) 2. Size of file is a huge problem - one of the reasons I use this site is to continue to watch shows when abroad. Many non-European / US countries have much more constrained and expensive internet packages - doubling the size of the file has effectively doubled the cost of watching these shows. When 1GB is costing about GBP20 this is a very significant and potentially prohibitive increase 3. Flash appears to have fewer picture controls than real player - the one that I have found most necessary is the brightness control - the default levels are too low for many ambient light environments and without the ability to change this it may be impossible to use the site in many situations All in all, this "upgrade" could have been handled a lot better with respect to whether users wanted it and what functionality trade-offs should be made. Given it is clearly a fait accompli please could the administrators of this site address the above issues? Does anyone else have similar concerns?
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 02:35     Subject: Flashpoint

The episodes in all three seasons are still mixed up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flashpoint_episodes http://www.tvrage.com/Flashpoint/episode_list/all
Author: gdi3    Time: 4-30-2011 02:39     Subject: Big Problem

Hello The upgrade is fine for picture quality and the big screen function is good too. However it is very very slow to download - keeps stopping while loading. This never happened when using realplayer. Even when i hit the pause button, to allow some time to download, it doesn't download. So I can only watch the episode while it keeps stopping and starting. Was I supposed to download flash player?? Or a plug in? I have cable so download speed should not be a problem from my end. Please help
Author: casper27    Time: 4-30-2011 02:41     Subject: Reply 58#58 bala's post

I am watching Smallville at the moment and I don't see a Logo?
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 02:44     Subject: Reply 62#62 casper27's post

Perhaps the logo is only on the free shows
Author: frogfox    Time: 4-30-2011 02:47

I am watching Supernatural on the VIP site and it has the logo
Author: casper27    Time: 4-30-2011 02:53     Subject: Reply 61#61 gdi3's post

Hi gdi3 sorry to hear your having problems. You can check what version of Flash player you have and whether you need an upgrade by going here http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/. Hopefully a quick upgrade will sort the problem out for you. @codebreaker I've just stopped the video and restarted it after looking at some of the other shows and logo is there now. It may be that Lbj is working on the issue, I know he is going to follow this thread closley for any issues.
Author: banlron    Time: 4-30-2011 02:55

you cant download shows any more?? not to happy about that if its the case
Author: casper27    Time: 4-30-2011 02:57     Subject: Reply 66#66 banlron's post

The downloading of shows is illegal and the site never supported this extra function.
Author: gdi3    Time: 4-30-2011 03:03     Subject: Thanks Craig

Thanks Craig. I have checked and have the latest version: 10,2,159,1 . The episode downloads but it just keeps buffering all the time. This tells me that the downloading is very very very slow. Never had this problem before. I don't know what else to do
Author: gdi3    Time: 4-30-2011 03:05     Subject: sorry

Sorry, maybe I am using the wrong terminology. By downloading I mean hitting the play button, that's all.
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 03:05     Subject: Reply 64#64 frogfox's post

The logo has disappeared
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 03:07     Subject: Reply 69#69 gdi3's post

What your broadband speed ?
Author: casper27    Time: 4-30-2011 03:10     Subject: Reply 69#69 gdi3's post

According to Lbjedward who is the Administrator the videos are in MP4 format stream at approximately 1,000 Kbps, so we recommend a downstream bandwidth of at least 1M bps or higher for smooth streaming. Do youtube videos and alike play ok?
Author: gdi3    Time: 4-30-2011 03:12     Subject: Reply 71#71 bala's post

Bala, just tested and got these results: Your line speed is 6.25 Mbps (6255 kbps). Your download speed is 782 KB/s (0.76 MB/s). I am on cable
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 03:13     Subject: Reply 70#70 bala's post

Fixing the logo problem was quick
Author: frogfox    Time: 4-30-2011 03:13     Subject: Additional functionality problem

Another disadvantage to Flash is the inability to use an equaliser to give greater control of the volume. Admin - any fixes for this please?
Author: gdi3    Time: 4-30-2011 03:14     Subject: Reply 72#72 casper27's post

Craig I have no problems with youtube or any other .
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 03:17     Subject: Reply 76#76 gdi3's post

Just a suggestion have you tried another web browser for me chrome streams better than firefox and IE
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 03:18

Quote:
Originally posted by gdi3 at 4-30-2011 11:12 Bala, just tested and got these results: Your line speed is 6.25 Mbps (6255 kbps). Your download speed is 782 KB/s (0.76 MB/s). I am on cable
i see your download speed has more than 1MB so it will slow you wait at least 5 minutes than press play
Author: gdi3    Time: 4-30-2011 03:20     Subject: Reply 77#77 codebreaker's post

Thanks, Jim I will try that.
Author: gdi3    Time: 4-30-2011 03:21     Subject: Reply 78#78 bala's post

Bala Just for this one episode I have waited 20 minutes and it has not progressed much at all
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 03:27     Subject: Reply 80#80 gdi3's post

Another advantage with flash is if you are planing to watch more than one episode open up the second episode and pause it allowing it to buff and when you are watching the second do the same for the next
Author: kazzea    Time: 4-30-2011 03:27

Well Thanks a lot for the consultation with the paying members. You could have at least kept both options or had a separate site for realplayer and one for flash. I CANT watch without downloading first as my broadband is appallingly slow. Great that means i now need to find somewhere else to buy my tv from. I can predict you will lose a fair amount of members. Very annoyed :@ EDITED for using stared swear word. Casper27
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 03:33     Subject: Reply 82#82 kazzea's post

The decision was made because so many member complained about real player problems over the past years so alternative choice was made to fix the problem.
Author: frogfox    Time: 4-30-2011 03:34     Subject: Standalone Flash player

Is it possible to use a stand alone flash player that would give more control on picture, volume, window size, etc? If so, could you explain how please?
Author: codebreaker    Time: 4-30-2011 03:35

I suppose it's to late to have http://vip.tv-video.net as realeplayer and http://viptv.net as flash
Author: Mnemosyne    Time: 4-30-2011 03:35     Subject: Reply 82#82 kazzea's post

you could hit the pause button and wait for it to buffer, I just tried that it's working fine for me. Only thing I noticed is that the ratings of the shows seem to be missing since the upgrade. Also the logo is a bit annoying and I would prefer if I could change the size of the player as I like to play on the games site while watching tv. But I'm sure you'll fix these things soon anyway
Author: rickman    Time: 4-30-2011 03:40

working pretty well in my pc
Author: gdi3    Time: 4-30-2011 03:47     Subject: Reply 83#83 bala's post

Why is the word "flowplayer" on the screen at the bottom left hand side? Is flowplayer the same as adobe Flash?
Author: gdi3    Time: 4-30-2011 03:59     Subject: Reply 85#85 codebreaker's post

Great idea, Jim. Or what about having the choice to select either Flash or Realplayer on this site? (So far it's taken me 20 minutes to watch about 5 minutes of video).
Author: tjuhej88    Time: 4-30-2011 04:01     Subject: Reply 55#55 codebreaker's post

Thanx, will do.
Author: babysexylexy    Time: 4-30-2011 04:01

i dont like flash it has just stopped working and its buffered all the way i really want realplayer back
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 04:05

Quote:
Originally posted by gdi3 at 4-30-2011 11:47 Why is the word "flowplayer" on the screen at the bottom left hand side? Is flowplayer the same as adobe Flash?
That's name software player they are using for flash unfounatly on some video that logo appears and on some other it doesn't.
Author: babysexylexy    Time: 4-30-2011 04:06

can you guys not put it back to real player please i cannot access csi new york with flash
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 04:07     Subject: Reply 93#93 babysexylexy's post

No it's gone for good
Author: babysexylexy    Time: 4-30-2011 04:19     Subject: reply 94#94 bala's post

but why i never ever ever had a problem with real player i have attempted to watch smallville 3 times now and its really frustrating me csi new york said stream not found so im trying again ive been interupted for fringe this isnt fair
Author: babysexylexy    Time: 4-30-2011 04:22

just tried to watch fringe again and its not letting me
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 04:23     Subject: Reply 95#95 babysexylexy's post

Other members have had problems majority rules CSI: NY work ok i just tried it and it loads ok [ Last edited by bala at 4-30-2011 12:24 ]
Author: babysexylexy    Time: 4-30-2011 04:26     Subject: reply 96#96 balas post

i know flash has a good picture but if i wanted flash i would go to tvfull.com or net but i didnt want it i so much prefered realplayer surely there is something members can do
Author: babysexylexy    Time: 4-30-2011 04:28     Subject: reply 97#97 balas post

i just tried to watch it, it buffered all the way and then i pressed play and it stopped after about 45 seconds
Author: bala    Time: 4-30-2011 04:33     Subject: Reply 99#99 babysexylexy's post

Well i checked i pass 45 second mark [attach]1348[/attach]




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